Skyrim find redguard woman mission
I have just reached this point and am frankly staggered by the lack of choice. I'm annoyed because I don't understand why I cant speak to Saadia upon returning from the conversation with Kematu in the caves, other than to trick her into their hands. All it would have taken was a couple of questions to get her side of the story, and then a proper decision could have been made. Very lazy design, and doesn't bode well for the game considering I am in the early stages. I've decided to leave them to it and not intervene. She's safe in the city, and I don't think they deserve to die.SEE VIDEO BY TOPIC: Skyrim The Redguard woman Location / In my time of need quest guide.
What is the "good" choice in the Redguard woman quest?
It only takes a minute to sign up. In the quest: " In my Time of Need ". If you accept Kematu's request and help him capture Saadia, you may encounter a group of Thalmor Justiciars in the wild that carry a Justiciar Execution Order with your race and name.
This may indicate that Kematu might have been telling the truth and that Saadia truly was a traitor source needed, Justiciar Execution Orders are normally issued because of the assault on the Thalmor Embassy in the main questline. I've done this quest both ways.. I just happened to visit the hall of the dead in white run, after helping the Alik'r and what do I find Saadia's burial Urn. She was supposed to be taken alive back to Hammerfell.
Facts point to Saadia lying about Alik'r cooperating with the Aldmeri Dominion I will base this claim not on what Kematu or Saadia has said or done as a person which might be subjective but on hard facts.
General Decianus was preparing to drive the Aldmeri back from Skaven when he was ordered to march for Cyrodiil. Unwilling to abandon Hammerfell completely, he allowed a great number of "invalids" to be discharged from the Legions before they marched east.
These veterans formed the core of the army that eventually drove Lady Arannelya's forces back across the Alik'r late in , taking heavy losses on their retreat from harassing attacks by the Alik'r warriors. We learn that General Decianus left some troops behind referred to in the book as "Alik'r warriors" who kept battling the Aldmeri Dominion when Decianus had to heed the call of emperor Titus Mede II to march to Cyrodiil.
The Emperor encouraged [The Aldmeri Dominion] in their belief that he was preparing to surrender; meanwhile, he gathered his forces to retake the Imperial City. In the end, the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil was completely destroyed. The Emperor's decision to withdraw from the Imperial City in 4E was bloodily vindicated.
Lord Naarifin was kept alive for thirty-three days, hanging from the White-Gold tower. It is not recorded where his body was buried, if it was buried at all. One source claims he was carried off by winged daedra on the thirty-fourth day.
We learn that Lord Naarifin a general of the Aldmeri Dominion was gibbeted at the end of the retaking of the Imperial City. Titus II was forced to officially renounce Hammerfell as an Imperial province in order to preserve the hard-won peace treaty. The Redguards, understandably, looked on this as a betrayal.
We learn that the Redguards refuse to accept the treaty and are expelled from the empire and continue to wage war with the Aldmeri Dominion. In the end, the heroic Redguards fought the Aldmeri Dominion to a standstill, [ We learn that the Aldmeri Dominion were eventually forced to widthdraw from Hammerfell as the war lead to a standstill.
Although not explicitly mentioned, judging by the White-Gold Concordat I doubt that the treaty of Stros M'kai left the Aldmeri Dominion empty handed which might explain Kematu saying that the resistance in Hammerfell is still ongoing. I doubt that 21 year is enough to clear up all the bad blood between the altmer and the redguards especially with the redguards being involved in gibbeting one of their more famous generals.
Even though the Aldmeri Dominion could have control over part of Hammerfell after the treaty, I doubt that they would be able to employ Alik'r who were part of the Hammerfell military during the war just a few decades ago. Since Aldmeri Dominion justiciar parties are freely roaming throughout Skyrim prisoners in tow , hiring a third party to do the same job seems questionable.
It makes sense that Alik'r warriors are turned away everywhere because they are seen as a military unit of Hammerfell which is no longer part of the empire, having a non-empire military unit march through a city could be seen as potentially dangerous, provocative and bearing heavy implications politically. Kematu asks you to meet him in Rorikstead. Rorik himself is an old war dog who fought in the Great War. Since he himself has most likely fought alongside redguards from Hammerfell, he might have allowed them to stay in his town as fellow veterans of war.
I doubt that Rorik having fought against the Aldmeri Dominion would let them stay in his town if he had any suspicions about them making deals with the Thalmor. There is no way to verify one or the other as it currently stands in the game.. But here is my take on it for judging the character. So based on that, I usually go with Saadia if I am being a relatively 'good' person The game doesn't tell us who is right here, so we're stuck with the dilemma people face in real life: we have to make the best choice with the information we have.
Ultimately, my decision is to side against the Alik'r note that is not the same thing as siding with Saadia :. All of the hard evidence is against the Alik'r acting in an acceptable or legitimate fashion, with only Kematu's honeyed words suggesting otherwise.
Furthermore, they have already been instructed to cease their activities. As Thane of Whiterun, it is the dragonborn's duty to eliminate the Alik'r for their continued activities against Whiterun hold. Okay, here's the facts: Whiterun kicked out Kematu's boys and imprisoned one of their members. In addition one of the bandits at the beginning of the cave say he doesn't like the Alik'r around, while his friend says something like don't complain unless you want a knife in the back.
That's pretty compelling evidence against them in my book. Then, after you slaughter them, Kematu tries his hand at smooth talking, and constantly calls Saadia a liar. Anyone that bases their point solely on another person being a liar, well that's just very dodgy straight off the bat. As Slade said here, her urn is in Whiterun, if you side with Kematu, meaning that while she might be taken back alive, she gets an execution at some point. And as stated, the Thalmor don't have the right to just kidnap people in Skyrim, they would have to hire someone else to capture her.
This is why I believe Saadia. So to break it down, Kematu's Alik'r are mercenaries that made 2 groups feel threatened, they were most likely hired by the Thalmor to capture Saadia and bring her back, and Kematu lies to you out of desperation in the cave, after you've destroyed his forces. Side with the Alik'r and Saadia will be executed. I'm going with Saadia, she's not hanging out in a damn cave, even that is pretty friggin suspicious! I thought this was pretty black and white at first, and sided with Kematu, but as someone previously stated, you find Saadia's burial urn in the hall of the dead in Whiterun.
She was supposed to be taken back alive for a trial. One thing that also bothered me was that to find out where Kematu is, you have to visit the Whiterun prison to talk to a captured Alik'r. He never really tells you why he was captured, he just says he has shamed the Alik'r for being captured, they are supposed to be "the best of the best" he says. Best at what? Wishing I hadn't turned her over, but oh well, I don't know if I could have beaten that many Alik'r warriors anyway. Just looking at what they were packing - they had curved swords.
Yeah, I'm on Saadia's side, the other thing that made me want to believe her is that if she helped the Aldmeri Dominion she could be fine under their protection, they're pretty freaking strong that and the fact she was a noble and became a tavern wench to live in hiding rather than staying a noble gives some credibility to her defense.
Kematu just threatens you with his band of assassins and hopes you'll lead him to her because he knows that you know where she is at that point. I'll say Kematu is the one to trust. He didn't kill her but she wants you to kill them.
Makes sense to me. That she is guilty of something. When Kematu came to Whiterun in search for her, he didn't use force or made a scene. I was going to side with the Lovely Saadia, sure she brings out a knife, wouldn't you if you knew people were hunting you? Plus I tend to side with the smaller party in almost all cases. No way would somebody slyly murder somebody and then just give her name freely and also pay for her remains to be put in an urn If she was executed as a traitor, her noble?
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Who's telling the truth? Saadia or Kematu? Ask Question. Asked 8 years, 2 months ago. Active 1 year, 4 months ago. Viewed k times. Saadia is wanted by the noble houses of Taneth for treason. Were it not for her betrayal, Taneth could have held its ground in the war.
How is it possible to confirm their claims? Kappei Renan Renan 1, 6 6 gold badges 22 22 silver badges 36 36 bronze badges. Go to Hammerfall and ask the House of Suda. Saadia and Kematu will probably have escaped by then so go ahead and kill both to be safe Active Oldest Votes. The purpose of this quest I think is to make you question which is the right option to take. It is intentionally unclear. My logic was this: The Alik'r were shunned by Whiterun, that's saying something.
Perhaps they have a bad reputation for being dirty mercenaries. It is more likely that an individual spoke out against an organization rather than one individual causing the fall of Taneth. The Aldmeri have always been able to win fights without the assistance of individuals, especially noble women, who may or may not have access to military secrets.
If she had caused the downfall of Taneth, why would she hide outside of Aldmeri territory? She could be easily protected elsewhere. I did see this though: If you accept Kematu's request and help him capture Saadia, you may encounter a group of Thalmor Justiciars in the wild that carry a Justiciar Execution Order with your race and name.
Skyrim:In My Time Of Need
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Reward : written by Blackdove86 , not checked. After Irileth informs the jarl about the dragon attacking the Western Watchtower during Dragon Rising , you may come across guards looking for a Redguard woman in the city. You may also observe an argument between Whiterun guards and Alik'r Warriors regarding their presence in the hold, or you may find Alik'r Warriors interrogating Redguard women in the Skyrim wilderness. Speak with the Alik'r to start the quest. Go to The Bannered Mare.
In My Time of Need
You will receive Gold if you choose to kill Kematu. Sometime after you speak with the Jarl, a pair of Alik'r warriors stand just at the entrance to Whiterun and beckon you over. Alternatively, you can start this quest by finding them elsewhere and approaching them as they are harrassing a Redguard woman They commission you to help them locate a Redguard woman hiding somewhere in Whiterun. They're willing to pay for any information you can find about this woman. She is the waitress named Saadia at the Bannered Mare. Here is where you are presented with two choices:. Talk to the Alik'r Prisoner in Dragonsreach dungeon behind the entrance to Dragonsreach itself. Pay the prisoner's fine to a guard gold. Go to Swindler's Den in the west, where you can kill Kematu. By the way, Kematu has something like five or six other warriors with him, so be ready for lots of crowd management during this fight.
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Upon entering Whiterun for the first time you will overhear a couple of Alik'r Warriors talking to the Whiterun Guards about locating a Redguard woman. It turns out that they have been barred from entering the city, and one of them even has been to jail. Speak to them and they will request your help. It is also possible to encounter Alik'r warriors harassing any number of Redguard women throughout Skyrim.
In My Time of Need: Kematu or Saadia? (possible spoilers)
The Dragonborn encounters some Alik'r warriors in search of a Redguard woman. They must choose whether to believe the warriors, and return the woman to custody, or trust the fugitive, and kill her pursuers. Either option offers a decent monetary reward.
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